Lansing Councilman vets mayoral appointment — by asking her age

Betz regrets ‘untactful’ interview comment amid climate change discussion


TUESDAY, Aug. 11 — City Councilman Brandon Betz raised eyebrows last night (and possibly broke federal discrimination laws) after he asked an older woman for her age before voting against her appointment to the Board of Commissioners at the Lansing Board of Water & Light.

Jaws dropped at Lansing City Council’s Committee of the Whole meeting last night after Betz asked Sandra Zerkle to disclose her age before voting against her reappointment to the BWL board. Zerkle, who didn’t reveal her age, was still appointed by a 5-3 vote without Betz’ support.

“In retrospect, asking about Sandy’s age was an untactful way to lead into a conversation about not acting now to curb climate change,” Betz said today. “Her age has nothing to do with her ability to perform duties on the board, and I welcome anyone regardless of age to serve the city.”

Betz quickly explained last night that he only asked Zerkle’s age to prove a point about how the long-term effects of climate change will be felt most by future generations and how Zerkle hasn’t been the most progressive commissioner in leading the charge toward 100% renewable energy.

It wasn’t designed to be an ageist comment, Betz said, but the damage had already been done. Zerkle was offended. Councilwoman Patricia Spitzley was visibly shocked by Betz’ question. Council President Peter Spadafore quickly helped move the interview along to another topic.

As for Betz’ question? “Much older than you,” Zerkle snapped back in response, noting she perceived Betz’ comment to be both offensive and discriminatory based on her status as a senior citizen. She also emphasized that her age has nothing to do with the conversation.

Asking the age of someone over 40 in job interviews has been against federal law since Congress passed the Age Discrimination Act of 1975.

Betz said he regret his choice of words, but he maintained he meant no offense in asking the question.

“The mayor made the wrong choice in reappointing two commissioners to the Board of Water & Light who have indicated a lack of interest in bringing about change that will protect future generations from the debilitating effects of climate change,” Betz explained this morning.

While Zerkle’s role on the board is voluntary, the federal Age Discrimination in Employment Act defines age discrimination as treating an applicant or employee less favorably because of his or her old age. It also clearly forbids age discrimination against anyone who is age 40 or older.

Zerkle and BWL Commissioner Tracy Thomas were both reappointed to a four-year term by a 5-3 vote, with opposition from Betz and Council members Kathie Dunbar and Brian Jackson.

Later, in the full City Council meeting, Betz  introduced a resolution to honor 102-year-old Florence Latham for her "longstanding love of Lansing," which passed unanimously. Latham has lived in the city since 1945.


5 comments on this item Please log in to comment by clicking here

  • John_F_Kennedy

    That is awful! I wonder if he will resign? Has anyone looked into to Betz supporting the gang "Piru Bloods". Looks like he follows a Facebook group whose leader is an open member of the gang. Is Betz replacing police with Bloods?

    Tuesday, August 11, 2020 Report this

  • Scubadav

    I was appalled by Councilman Betz’s tactless and discriminatory questioning of my fellow BWL Commissioner, Sandra Zerkle.

    Sandra is a dedicated and reliable member of our Commission and has served in numerous leadership positions, including Chair. She is always looking out for our customers and our dedicated employees.

    I have requested that Mr Betz issue a public apology to Commissioner Zerkle at the next City Council meeting and at the next BWL Commission meeting.

    David J. Price, Commission Chair

    Lansing Board of Water and Light

    Wednesday, August 12, 2020 Report this

  • Jbraem

    Seriously.....did you just report on an ageism story by adding your own ageist description of the commissioner? Did you need to call the commissioner “elderly” in your description of her? The Councilman’s question asking a candidate’s age is inappropriate for a candidate of ANY age unless there is an legal age restriction associated with the performance of the job. Betz should know this but maybe he skipped that HR training that everyone else in America has taken.

    Wednesday, August 12, 2020 Report this

  • JSCroff

    Council member Betz's comments are maladroit and indicative of a an ageist bias. While his intentions were to shine a light on a less than supportive history in regards to environmental action, all he managed to do was spotlight his own ineptitude and bias that doesn't serve our community.

    Wednesday, August 12, 2020 Report this

  • sansabelt

    experience, that is, seniority does matter. Betz's inexperience made him err against federal law and showed his age bias. I'm retired and worked for decades in a corporate environment and experienced all the ism's; racism, sexism, ageism. Women are judged more severely as they physically age and are stigmatized.

    Wednesday, August 12, 2020 Report this

Connect with us